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Old 07-24-2010, 04:55 PM
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nah. I used to teach there. Loved it. Love the students and teaching and everything about it. I would teach 100% of the time. no 50% selling or crap like that. You can only mention something so many times. You must have a really bad instructor. That happens with every system though.
Well it was just amazing to grow a studio and take students from white to black belt ( in an average of 4 years as it should be). The instructors academy that I went through and helped teach at times was amazing as well. Sure there is selling involved. It is a business after all and you have to grow it or go out of business. Selling is a big part of it but... the main thing must always be the teaching and the relationships with the students. Helpling them grow in the art and feeling good when they have actually used thier art to defend themselves in real life or to avoid conflicts. Taking students to tournaments and watching them win trophies and knowing that the hard work combined with your coaching helped to produce that result. Watching students with ADD or Autism flourish. There are just too many stories and good times to relate them all here. I will always cherish my time with USSD both as a student and an instructor and I will always be a lifelong student of the martial arts because of it. There is no downside. If there is...it is usually because of the instructor. It could be a bad instructor or just one you don't relate to. If this is the case find another studio ..be it within USSD or another system. Overall I have nothing bad to say about USSD. My instruction was first rate, my interaction with the various masters was first rate, my teaching experiences were exceptional and running a studio there was one of the most amazing experiences of my life.
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:22 PM
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Overall I have nothing bad to say about USSD.
i think we shud hav u bronzed...
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:24 PM
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Maybe his name was Lefey LeBlanc
wasn't he that skunk that kept trying to make it with some cat?
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:05 PM
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i think we shud hav u bronzed...
bronzed? LOL
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:45 PM
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I dont see what Villari had to do with a ussd discusion. He was the proffesors partner a long time ago and has NOTHING to do with the company anymore. I thought this was a forum to discuss what was up with ussd and i dont think it stays on topic all the time and i dont think slanderus comments about the proffessor or The Master have anyplace here or anyware else for that matter. Some of you need to stop being so imature about things that you suposedly heard and have no proof of and if they suposedly have criminal records then i think it would be public knowledge about what it was for. All i ever read is arrest record but there is NO proof and not even anything spesific alegations.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:46 PM
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I dont see what Villari had to do with a ussd discusion. He was the proffesors partner a long time ago and has NOTHING to do with the company anymore.
He was a lot more than Mattera's partner. He was also his instructor up until 7th degree, meaning that you are doing Villari's style. So when somebody asks what's up with the style USSD teaches, Villari is still a very large part of the USSD story regardless of what your student manual left out. If you go back a dozen or so pages you'll see the subject of the style taught at USSD over and over and over again.

Business wise there was a lot taken from Villari. I linked a Villari interview a few posts ago, I suggest you go back and read it.

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I thought this was a forum to discuss what was up with ussd and i dont think it stays on topic all the time
Technically, this is a thread about USSD, the thread exist in the forum. That is more of an FYI... LOL.

Anyways, if you go back to the first post you'll see that somebody asked a pretty broad and general question about USSD and it's offerings. So, you're going to get the whole spectrum from business practices to style practiced.

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and i dont think slanderus comments about the proffessor or The Master have anyplace here or anyware else for that matter. Some of you need to stop being so imature about things that you suposedly heard and have no proof of and if they suposedly have criminal records then i think it would be public knowledge about what it was for. All i ever read is arrest record but there is NO proof and not even anything spesific alegations.
You're 100% right, there is no proof of arrests. With court systems going online now with public information readily available (like Clark County) something would of come up by now.

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Old 07-28-2010, 03:36 PM
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I dont see what Villari had to do with a ussd discusion. He was the proffesors partner a long time ago and has NOTHING to do with the company anymore. I thought this was a forum to discuss what was up with ussd and i dont think it stays on topic all the time and i dont think slanderus comments about the proffessor or The Master have anyplace here or anyware else for that matter. Some of you need to stop being so imature about things that you suposedly heard and have no proof of and if they suposedly have criminal records then i think it would be public knowledge about what it was for. All i ever read is arrest record but there is NO proof and not even anything spesific alegations.
WOW. You really know nothing about your system, do you? Look at your system's family tree. Then you tell us all how GrandMaster Villari is not relevant to this discussion on the Shaolin Kempo system.

http://www.urbin.net/EWW/MA/KEMPO/fv-ft.html

BTW, just so we are clear, the people that are under Fred Villari are people that trained under him.

Here's the Black Belt Tree...if you look under M, you'll find Charles Mattera there...

http://www.kenponet.com/flame/tree/v/fred_villari.html

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Old 07-28-2010, 05:53 PM
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If you've every trained with both systems USSD and Villari you'll see differences of course but the style is basically the same. I've trained with both and taught students from both systems. I found that Villari was more animal based..if that makes sense?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:11 AM
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If you've every trained with both systems USSD and Villari you'll see differences of course but the style is basically the same. I've trained with both and taught students from both systems. I found that Villari was more animal based..if that makes sense?
Really? I have studied both and it really depends on the instructor in either system.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:57 AM
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I dont see what Villari had to do with a ussd discusion. He was the proffesors partner a long time ago and has NOTHING to do with the company anymore. I thought this was a forum to discuss what was up with ussd and i dont think it stays on topic all the time and i dont think slanderus comments about the proffessor or The Master have anyplace here or anyware else for that matter. Some of you need to stop being so imature about things that you suposedly heard and have no proof of and if they suposedly have criminal records then i think it would be public knowledge about what it was for. All i ever read is arrest record but there is NO proof and not even anything spesific alegations.

Grandmaster Fred Villari was not Charles Mattera's partner! Mattera was just a district manager for villari's, not co owner/partner! If he was co-owner why doesn't he have half the villari schools on the east coast? There's only 2 ussd's left on the east coast thanks to mattera's great managment program! Villari has everything to do with the shaolin kempo! Your DM's and forms after black belt are GM villaris creation. Mattera didn't get to be the big shaolin kempo guy on the west coast cause he's a nice guy. Everyone knows what he did to other shaolin kempo schools!

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Old 07-29-2010, 12:57 PM
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You completely avoided the other part of my post which asks for proof of the aleged arrest records for the professor and The Master. Thier are only two schools on the east coast not because of the management program but because they didnt have the day to day contact needed from The Master and the professor which is why The Master is starting to run workouts and meeting with the new skype program so that people can watch him teach and watch him run meetings and that way they get better martial arts instructsion and get the motivatsion they need from his meetings.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:05 PM
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You completely avoided the other part of my post which asks for proof of the aleged arrest records for the professor and The Master. Thier are only two schools on the east coast not because of the management program but because they didnt have the day to day contact needed from The Master and the professor which is why The Master is starting to run workouts and meeting with the new skype program so that people can watch him teach and watch him run meetings and that way they get better martial arts instructsion and get the motivatsion they need from his meetings.
YOUR ONE TO TALK!

You completely avoid everyones questions on here or spin them!

Have you read all the post from past 9 years of ex ussd instructors?

Im sure they made all the bad things up that happened to them because they suck and ussd treated them so great and paid them well!
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:14 PM
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Please tell me which questions i have avoided and i have read some of the posts from exussd instructors and im sure they had bad expeiances but how many of them were from The Masters regions NONE and you are still avoiding the arrest alegations so you obviusly dont know what you are talking about or else you would have proof of which you have none buddy.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:03 PM
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Please tell me which questions i have avoided and i have read some of the posts from exussd instructors and im sure they had bad expeiances but how many of them were from The Masters regions NONE and you are still avoiding the arrest alegations so you obviusly dont know what you are talking about or else you would have proof of which you have none buddy.
Oh dear. What crack are you smoking? I was in OC the same time "The Master" was running it. Oh wait, it's better...the guy that was convicted for child molestation was let into chief instructor workouts. Please, try not to start the argument "the Master's" areas are gold and nothing ****ty happens in them. You are a kid and know nothing
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:57 PM
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Please tell me which questions i have avoided and i have read some of the posts from exussd instructors and im sure they had bad expeiances but how many of them were from The Masters regions NONE and you are still avoiding the arrest alegations so you obviusly dont know what you are talking about or else you would have proof of which you have none buddy.
Is your head permanently up your ass?
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