What's Up with USSD?

[KC Elbows]

My work here is done.

I need some sort of title. The Elbow? Too anatomical. I'll have to contemplate this before I start interviewing potential wards.

[shaolin23]

Originally Posted by kempoisbest

The benefits are the same for ussd as like other martial arts schools of course but the difference is that the classes are the same no matter where you go to take your martial arts lesson even if its in oregon or in nevada or in texas or in california.
all martial arts have there roots in shaolin but like i said before and twisted crane said before is that few people clame that it is mostly shaolin but we do have some shaolin in it maybe not the monkey or dog forms but we have the most important stuff like the fighting techniques.
what makes ussd so good is its philosephy which the z guys obviusly dont live by which is why i say they will fail because if you are not loyal to your instrcutor then noone will be loyal to you.
If you watch the Master do his demos or his masters classes you will see why we all respect him so much.
Shellie 40 students hardly makes for a sucessfull dojo and if you say you had 40 im sure it was more like 20 and if the checks were bouncing it means there wasnt enough money to cover them and i realy doubt there were 5 changes in 1 year.

The benefits are better at other martial arts schools because they dont charge $200 a month for some inexperienced instructor who knows nothing about chinese martial arts or REAL shaolin kung fu and was pushed through the ranks to black belt in 2 years and paid $10,000 for your joke of a martial arts college!

You can find a real shaolin monk in California for less then $200 a month!
http://www.shaolinca.com/

http://www.shaolinusa.us/
No point training with is kempo is a joke school here's the real thing!

As for your so called secret fighting techniques goto a Krav Maga school school or Jeet Kune Do school and learn the REAL secrets of martial arts fighting techniques!

6 students to 40 in six months is pretty good especially considering what ussd over charges for karate lessons!

How many students do you have? Better yet how Ussd schools are left? 30? 20? Are you guys having a special meeting on Friday to talk about how everyone who left you sucks because now Mattera doesn't get his 85% cut of their dojos no more?

Gee real stupid idea to leave a dojo franchise that robs you of all your money and keep it all yourself!

[SenseiShellie]

Originally Posted by shaolin23

How many students do you have? Better yet how Ussd schools are left? 30? 20? Are you guys having a special meeting on Friday to talk about how everyone who left you sucks because now Mattera doesn't get his 85% cut of their dojos no more?!

He probably doesn't have any students of his own or had any experience in getting sign-ups. He sure hasn't read any of their IKAI books...like "how to win friends and influence people." You can't trust the USSD website either. I know for a fact that the Virginia Schools are not USSD anymore. They are called Patomic Karate. Looks like the East Coast has 1 school in Long Island. Kind of silly since he's surrounded by independant and Villari' schools...

[shaolin23]

Originally Posted by SenseiShellie

He probably doesn't have any students of his own or had any experience in getting sign-ups. He sure hasn't read any of their IKAI books...like "how to win friends and influence people." You can't trust the USSD website either. I know for a fact that the Virginia Schools are not USSD anymore. They are called Patomic Karate. Looks like the East Coast has 1 school in Long Island. Kind of silly since he's surrounded by independant and Villari' schools...

Who did the Virginia Ussd Schools go with?

[SenseiShellie]

Originally Posted by shaolin23

Who did the Virginia Ussd Schools go with?

Independant

[shaolin23]

Originally Posted by SenseiShellie

Independant

Here they are!

http://www.potomackempo.com/#locations

3 ussd dojos that split off from ussd! They saw the sinking ship and left

[SenseiShellie]

Originally Posted by shaolin23

Here they are!

http://www.potomackempo.com/#locations

3 ussd dojos that split off from ussd! They saw the sinking ship and left

USSD forgot about them...

[Almost A Ghost]

http://zultimate.com/one-thing-you-a...l-arts-program

Wow, they are just copying the USSD Instructor's Manual word for word. Like this one sales tactic where the other schools are dirty little holes filled with rough *******s. So this is why you should go to an overpriced studio that makes you feel all warm in your tum-tum-tummy. Would you like a nice hot cup of cocoa? There, that's better. Teehee.

[Paquet]

This looks like it is more sales driven then USSD. Give me a break with the $650 value. I will only pay that if the hooker comes with it. How come Bill Huff is now Harrington Huff? Did everybody change their first names? Thurston Eslinger? Beauregard Prosch? Chauncey Clegg? Percival Ley? and Bartholomew Clark? It smells like money in here!

[Almost A Ghost]

"Harrison Huff" seemed to be his 'pen name'. As he runs a self help website http://www.harrisonhuff.com/

Don't know why he has decided to go with Harrison under ZUSDS. I've pointed out before, this is the same guy selling the infamous book handed to Mattera from the Abbot of temple on www.shaolinsecrets.com

I wonder if they are going to start downplaying the whole 'Shaolin' thing. They seemed to be more invested in selling a 'customizable' martial arts program.

[SenseiShellie]

Originally Posted by Paquet

This looks like it is more sales driven then USSD. Give me a break with the $650 value. I will only pay that if the hooker comes with it. How come Bill Huff is now Harrington Huff? Did everybody change their first names? Thurston Eslinger? Beauregard Prosch? Chauncey Clegg? Percival Ley? and Bartholomew Clark? It smells like money in here!

The smell reeks of money. LOL about the names!

Originally Posted by Almost A Ghost

"Harrison Huff" seemed to be his 'pen name'. As he runs a self help website http://www.harrisonhuff.com/

Don't know why he has decided to go with Harrison under ZUSDS. I've pointed out before, this is the same guy selling the infamous book handed to Mattera from the Abbot of temple on www.shaolinsecrets.com

I wonder if they are going to start downplaying the whole 'Shaolin' thing. They seemed to be more invested in selling a 'customizable' martial arts program.

They probably want nothing to do with the Shaolin thing. Paul Taylor was spotted last month at the Kenpo International Tournament in Long Beach. I think he was trying to align himself and Z Ultimate with other organizations.

[Almost A Ghost]

Originally Posted by SenseiShellie

They probably want nothing to do with the Shaolin thing. Paul Taylor was spotted last month at the Kenpo International Tournament in Long Beach. I think he was trying to align himself and Z Ultimate with other organizations.

That or chasing independent SKK schools, particularly former USSD schools and trying to pitch them the new franchise.

[ktkungfu]

Originally Posted by Almost A Ghost

http://zultimate.com/one-thing-you-a...l-arts-program

Wow, they are just copying the USSD Instructor's Manual word for word. Like this one sales tactic where the other schools are dirty little holes filled with rough *******s. So this is why you should go to an overpriced studio that makes you feel all warm in your tum-tum-tummy. Would you like a nice hot cup of cocoa? There, that's better. Teehee.

I bet there charging the same rate as ussd too! If they lowered the price $50 they would have twice as many students at each dojo.

[Almost A Ghost]

Holy hell. Now they've posted this crap reasoning for over paying

http://zultimate.com/why-you-never-c...based-on-price